https://health.forgivenesscapital.com/?page_id=2608
1:18 PMDillon Black
was it bad kelsey?
1:18 PMKelsey J
he only spent a couple hours looking into NA yeah perhaps we should talk 
1:18 PMNitay Gouranga
regarding consuming activated charcoal with meals, is it not sucking any useful nutrient from it ? I know you have said that’s a myth but still I feel a little depleted when I take it even alone.
1:18 PMzendogbreath
@Kelsey J ya gotta give it full attention. remember Grant is an engineer. details.
1:18 PMzendogbreath
@Nitay Gouranga how much are you taking?
1:18 PMK W
You don’t know me. I’m new. I’m in good shape and work out consistently. Copper..makes sense. I had 4huge babies. Not taking too much zinc maybe too much potassium?
1:18 PMKelsey J
it was not stark enough in its contrast between nicotinic acid and niacinamide
1:18 PMWill
I like my women smooth
1:18 PMKelsey J
I will I will
1:19 PMKelsey J
it’s important, I can work with this
1:19 PMzendogbreath
where did smooth come from.
1:19 PMNitay Gouranga
@zendogbreath around 2 teaspoons 2-3 times a day
1:19 PMzendogbreath
I bet we can get him to study more on NA
1:19 PMDillon Black
grant likes to stir the pot
1:20 PMzendogbreath
@Nitay Gouranga how long ago were you taking zero charcoal?
1:20 PMKelsey J
I’m certainly stirred up lolWelcome to live chat! Remember to guard your privacy and abide by our community guidelines.Learn more
1:20 PMJohn Dickinson
@Kelsey where can I find a good breakdown of the difference between niacinamide and nicotinic acid? The recent livestream didn’t go deep enough. Confusing.
1:20 PMzendogbreath
@Kelsey J he carefully stated that he is profoundly neutral on NA and clear that he believes niacin as fortified is evil.
1:21 PMKelsey J
I’ll print it out and address piece by piece…if I get time and there’s not several x flares a day lol
1:21 PMWill
how dare you, chat!
1:21 PMzendogbreath
@Kelsey J I thought you went into the difference in one of your lessons on NA.
1:22 PMKelsey J
I know, the body of it wasn’t quite as clear as I like
1:22 PMKelsey J
I did yes
1:22 PMzendogbreath
Yeh. Grant does not care about what he does not say.
1:22 PMzendogbreath
@Will ????
1:23 PMWill
hai hai wiru desu
1:23 PMDillon Black
chat is where it’s at lol
1:24 PMzendogbreath
translategoogle says Hi Cup Will
1:24 PMWill
Grant never really understood the first principles of TBT to be fair
1:24 PMWill
will = wiru
1:24 PMzendogbreath
when I take out hai hai it says I’m Will
1:25 PMWill
hai hai, boku wa will chan desiou ne
1:25 PMzendogbreath
Ishi ga areba michihahirakeru
1:26 PMK W
Thanks! I feel so dumb in this chat!
1:26 PMzendogbreath
I always wondered how there can be more than one king at a time.
1:26 PMKelsey J
I need to go eat some protein to make it thru today, chicken in the instapot. ttyl chat friends 
1:26 PMWill
boka chan ga oshiete kureta ironma mita
1:26 PMWill
cya kelsey
1:27 PMDillon Black
laters kels
1:27 PMzendogbreath
Let’s make Garrett laugh and blow NA water out his nose during LS
1:27 PMWill
my left leg has been twitchy for the last week
1:29 PMWill
I have never fallen asleep initially. It ALWAYS takes an hour minimum
1:29 PMzendogbreath
I got cramps down enough to let me sleep 2 full rems at a time. awesome.
1:29 PMWill
And I do potassium at night too
1:30 PMzendogbreath
you need sudoku by the bedside
1:31 PMJohn Dickinson
”while both NA and nicotinamide can lead to NAD+ production, they do so through different pathways: nicotinic acid through the NAPRT pathway, and nicotinamide through the Preiss-Handler pathway”
1:31 PMzendogbreath
BLACK OATSTER CULT Seasons don’t fear the pooper
Hi Doc, if this question has already been addressed I apologize, is lactoferrin or niacin or both more effective for repairing cholestasis? Thanks
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1:31 PMJohn Dickinson
@Kelsey do you agree with this quote from ChatGPT?
1:31 PMDaniel Jackson
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1:32 PMzendogbreath
time to eat some black oats and beef. no more rickets here.
1:34 PMzendogbreath
I identify as mostly man. not so much woman.
1:34 PMzendogbreath
we need Pierre here to get Doc cracking up from chat
1:35 PMzendogbreath
I identify as an aggitator
1:35 PMserfin’ USA
do you need to avoid fat to let the gallbladder heal a month or two?
1:36 PMzendogbreath
@serfin’ USA no need to eat extra fat if eating beef
What are your thoughts on ionic foot bath detox, the kits with the arrays/electrodes? Useful/safe? Snake oil?
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1:38 PMGianni Gianni
Thanks 
1:38 PMAnna Lynn
What’s the correlation to hepcidin production and the toxic bile theory? I’ve taken iron for 40 yrs, as well as copper, D and A. It results in very low cholesterol and iron. Curious how this ties in.
1:39 PMD K
the price of Niacin is more foundational (it’s cheap!). there is GS saying just that
phytates reduced by soaking grain/bean warm 120 deg F for 12 to 24 hrs help with potassium uptake?
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1:39 PMzendogbreath
where is Ramone when you need him?
1:40 PMDaniel Jackson
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1:41 PMzendogbreath
@headwood have you seen the livestream on ALS? Lou Gherig was all about electro stimulation.
1:42 PMheadwood
@zendogbreath No, haven’t watched that one yet. I’ll check it out thx
1:42 PMWill
What?-age
1:42 PMJoe Baker’s Remedy Report
ALS Episode of LYL #137 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7onY…
1:42 PMWill
@Daniel Jackson could be
1:43 PMDaniel Jackson
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1:45 PMzendogbreath
@headwood it is Livestream #137
Anna Lynn$4.99
What’s the relation to hepcidin production and the toxic bile theory? I’ve taken iron, A & D for 40 yrs resulting in very low cholesterol and iron.
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1:46 PMNutrition Detective
https://twitter.com/NutriDetect/statu…
1:46 PMDaniel Jackson
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1:46 PMWill
no no @Daniel Jackson I was making a dad joke about ‘wattage’
1:46 PMNutrition Detective
https://thehill.com/opinion/technolog…
1:47 PMDaniel Jackson
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1:47 PMzendogbreath
who was the NBA player that had a huge growth on side of head jaw where he held his phone all the time?
1:48 PMserfin’ USA
my cousin had a tumor behind his ear and he always wore one them bluetooth earpieces
1:48 PMWill
But big pappa apple would never hurt us!
1:49 PMzendogbreath
wait does this mean I am a neuro degenerate?
1:49 PMzendogbreath
that splains alot
1:49 PMDaniel Jackson
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1:49 PMheadwood
Thanks! I wasn’t aware you’d covered the foot baths before. I wonder if wearing the EMF Solutions wristband or personal card while using it could somehow mitigate overintensification from the footbath
1:49 PMzendogbreath
we ahve wires all over our house instead of wifi. looks silly.
1:50 PMzendogbreath
not a tropic
1:50 PMJohn Dickinson
Nuuu trah pic
1:52 PMzendogbreath
so does the yellow colored vA filled fat get blue from the MB to make a lovely green?
1:53 PMJoe Baker’s Remedy Report
video is freezing .. close that Hill page
1:53 PMWill
symptoms, simp-toms
1:54 PMzendogbreath
hey you missed a superchat
super chat
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1:54 PMD K
thank!
1:54 PMzendogbreath
thank you @Joe Baker’s Remedy Report stay on him. we are going a full 5 hours today.
1:55 PMAnna Lynn
I paid for one!!
1:55 PMAnna Lynn
You’re very welcome
1:55 PMAnna Lynn
Yes
1:55 PMAnna Lynn
I’m here
1:56 PMAnna Lynn
I am
1:56 PMCryptoTime
Started with vit A diet due to Keratosis Pilaris + added Zinc supplement, been only few days and parts were KP showed most recent is just disappearing
1:56 PMAnna Lynn
I took it for anemia and developed low cholesterol, iron and hemoglobin
1:57 PMzendogbreath
nice @CryptoTime. had similar experience with moles age spots warts cuts scrapes and old scars.
1:57 PMCryptoTime
@zendogbreath awesome to hear that
1:57 PMDaniel Jackson
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1:57 PMzendogbreath
@CryptoTime are you on LYL network too?
1:58 PMAnna Lynn
Yes
1:58 PMCryptoTime
Yeah
1:58 PMzendogbreath
there are a few posts there you can find on search. bunch of us have had this. so nice
2:00 PMzendogbreath
reminder:zendogbreath$5.00phytates reduced by soaking grain/bean warm 120 deg F for 12 to 24 hrs help with potassium uptake?
2:02 PMJoe Baker’s Remedy Report
@zendogbreath Won’t forget your superchat. Good point. I pressure cook my oatmeal for like an hour. Does that help reduce philates?
2:02 PMzendogbreath
Ben Greenfield has articles on salivary gland cancer & phones. “More celebrities than just Lebron James have been dealing with salivary or parotid gland tumors. For examle, John McCain and Adam Yauch”
2:02 PMSarah G
Yes! My ferritin has been raising ever since I started the program 3 years ago.
2:03 PMzendogbreath
I think so Joe. Did you see the recent post on LYL about soaking it warm with charcoal or bicarbs?
2:03 PMJoe Baker’s Remedy Report
LYL #103 High Ferritin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VHHL…
2:04 PMzendogbreath
@Joe Baker’s Remedy Report I thought you were crock potting it not pressure cooking?
2:04 PMJoe Baker’s Remedy Report
@zendogbreath I’m also putting charcoal powder in the pressure cooker. I heat the water first. Add oatmeal & charcoal stir and seal it.
2:04 PMzendogbreath
are you soaking and rinsing it first?
2:06 PMJoe Baker’s Remedy Report
@zendogbreath I was slow cooking in crock pot. But figured out how to do it with a pressure cooker now. Heat water first to pressure… release. Add oats and charc… and seal it for 1 hr.
2:07 PMzendogbreath
@will found your comment on Grant’s blog. about to read it.
2:07 PMAnna Lynn
I actually had a heart attack from iron overload in 2017, but still said my blood levels were low.
2:08 PMAnna Lynn
Thus they said it was hepcidin overproduction
2:08 PMzendogbreath
interesting @Joe Baker’s Remedy Report sounds good. think I will try that along with warm soak and rince first.
2:09 PMWill
I require a book review when done
2:09 PMWill
Estrogen is probably a hormonal waste end product
2:12 PMzendogbreath
book review is positive. well said (except for that little think equating niacinamide and NA and whatever)
2:12 PMAnna Lynn
They increased my iron to 12 iron pills a day 2 weeks before the heart attack.
2:12 PMzendogbreath
dai unchi san is king of blowing it out.
2:12 PMAnna Lynn
I was in a hot tub and that’s what triggered it.
2:13 PMzendogbreath
anna is IRON WOMAN
2:13 PMAnna Lynn
2:13 PMzendogbreath
how can these guys not get sued?
2:13 PMzendogbreath
I have lead poisoning so the cure is to supplement my lead.
2:14 PMWill
I will suffer to prove the theory 🙂
2:14 PMBrenda M
OMGosh Anna! I’m so happy you are her to tell your story!
2:14 PMEve W
I have a lot of iron in my system. I cannot take iron supplements
2:15 PMfabuladeum
all the liver eaters, I.e frank tafano had toxic levels of iron in their livers
2:16 PMzendogbreath
@Anna Lynn did you skin turn grey from it?
Can’t have too much carbs due to copper toxicity, is it ok to fill out calories with fat to stay full? Too low fat and I get very hungry
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2:17 PMAnna Lynn
@zen No, but I was pretty tan, so I wouldn’t have been able to tell.
2:17 PMzendogbreath
had a friend with bad liver who turned gray after a hamburger. used to get phlebotomy regular to reduce his iron.
2:17 PMzendogbreath
omg Anna
2:18 PMserfin’ USA
i think iron can feed some bacteria strains too
2:18 PMzendogbreath
good point serfin
2:19 PMzendogbreath
@Oscar F can you take any charcoal?
2:20 PMOscar F
@zendogbreath you mean after meals?
2:21 PMzendogbreath
sounds like you are currently taking no charcoal, is that right?
2:21 PMOscar F
I’ve tried it before bed, didn’t really notice any difference
2:22 PMzendogbreath
are you on LYL? can you get to the article on “order of adding stuff”list?
2:22 PMOscar F
not yet but plan on joining
2:23 PMzendogbreath
yeh. am starting the soaks and rinses now.
2:24 PMzendogbreath
please do join soon @Oscar F it is easier to get the copper out safe and easy than to change what you are taking in.
2:24 PMzendogbreath
thank you on the answer on the superchat.
2:24 PMOscar F
No, I’m active 25 year old male
2:24 PMOscar F
need around 3k-3.5k a day calories
2:25 PMOscar F
I make sure to get 200g protein a day. When I go on 10% fat calories /day, I get VERY hungry and want to cheat on sugars. Don’t want to go above 1.5/2mg of copper a day due to toxicity
2:26 PMOscar F
But it’s hard to eat more carbs and not go above that copper amount
2:26 PMOscar F
So a bit fattier meat/tallow the best?
2:26 PMManuel Gonzalez
Which grain do you suggest? Millet?
2:26 PMzendogbreath
can you find low copper carbs?
2:27 PMzendogbreath
am doing well with oats and fruit
2:27 PMOscar F
Yes. I do best on low carb, like 50-75g carbs a day from oats / apples
2:27 PMOscar F
But scared I won’t detox with that fat amount as it needs higher fat
2:28 PMzendogbreath
so you are doing keto now, right?
2:28 PMOscar F
200g protein/200g fat/75g carbs ish
2:28 PMzendogbreath
yeh. that is where I came in from.
2:29 PMzendogbreath
I still eat that much meat. lowered fat and slowly raised carbs. Doc has this it is easy for him. He coached me thru. transition from keto to carbo helped.
2:29 PMzendogbreath
I am apple and oat licious.
2:30 PMOscar F
Cool. I’ve just heard fat is terrible for detoxing so I’ve been trying to push high carb low fat, but can’t stay full on it and doesn’t feel as good as I did on lower carb (not full keto) but more fat
2:30 PMzendogbreath
denise minger has a good youtube about eating under 10% fat OR over 70% fat but not in between.
2:30 PMOscar F
Diet pretty much fatty meat with tallow + oats and a few apples
2:30 PMJoe Baker’s Remedy Report
@zendogbreath Maybe soaking overnight might be better than pressure cooking. I’m not confident that pressure and heat would break down the acid.
Low starch diet is prescribed for ankylosing spondylitis (AS). I did this for 8 years and it relieved my AS by ~70%. Carnivore & now low VA resolved the rest. My ?: Why would avoiding starch help AS?
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2:32 PMzendogbreath
@Joe Baker’s Remedy Report agreed. that is what i will try next.
2:32 PMOscar F
I’m still making sure to go once/twice a day with the fattier diet
2:32 PMOscar F
the oats and apples help
2:32 PMJohn Dickinson
What are examples of low vitA fats?
2:32 PMzendogbreath
@Oscar F you will feel wimpy if you mix keto and carbo. carbs over 50g cut me out of ketosis but not enough carbs to burn.
2:33 PMWill
F Me? Why!!!! (lol)
2:33 PMOscar F
Okay, thanks doc
2:34 PMOscar F
Gotcha. Maybe a slower transition from lower carb to more carb is what I should go with
2:34 PMOscar F
@zendogbreath I actually felt pretty good at 60-70g carbs a day
2:34 PMzendogbreath
got to provide carbs to burn for energy if ketosis is not happening. dates are my backup to oats and apples. transition to carbs slow but get there.
2:35 PMzendogbreath
yeh. over that you lose ketosis and get keto flu. no matter how much more fat taken in.
2:35 PMJoe Baker’s Remedy Report
@zendogbreath Wondering if the charcoal will draw out glyphosate and if that’s safe then to pass through digestion? Srtong bond of charcoal to glyphosate?
2:35 PMzendogbreath
took me couple months slowly bringing up carb intake.
2:35 PMOscar F
Is there a maximum amount of copper one should eat if toxic?
2:35 PMzendogbreath
@will lololo
2:36 PMzendogbreath
eat lowest copper possible.
2:36 PMOscar F
@zendogbreath That’s what get tricky when eating alot of carbs. All carbs have copper.
2:36 PMOscar F
Except honey/pure sugar
2:36 PMzendogbreath
@Oscar F get on LYL. bunch of us carnivore / keto folk transitioned and some still are and detoxing. great topic.
2:37 PMOscar F
Ok cool
2:37 PMzendogbreath
@Joe Baker’s Remedy Report am going to soak in charcoal, rinse it out and replace with new charcoal and water to cook.
2:38 PMJoe Baker’s Remedy Report
@zendogbreath I wonder if I met you at the Silicon Valley Bitcoin meetup?
2:38 PMWill
I’m an essential nutrient 😉
2:39 PMTao Lin
Grains mostly and potatoes.
2:39 PMzendogbreath
there is no way to avoid all vit A nor copper in food. helping liver to get them out is easier than avoiding all.
2:39 PMTao Lin
Yes and no beans.
2:39 PMWill
beenz
2:39 PMzendogbreath
@Joe Baker’s Remedy Report just tell me if I am hyperchatting. lololo
2:40 PMserfin’ USA
@Tao Lin one theory i read is Ankylosing Spondylitis is an autoimmune disease caused by gluten/grain allergy/sensitivity.
2:40 PMTao Lin
But I tried beans recently and I did fine on them, so now I’m wondering if I avoided them for 8 years thinking they would be bad for me but they actually weren’t.
2:40 PMM D
@Will ウィルさんを食べてもいいですか？
2:41 PMButtercup
Ya I gained weight coming from keto , I figured my body was recalibrating
2:41 PMzendogbreath
yowza @M D
2:41 PMEvan E
I also didn’t eat starch for AS for 9 years. I eat starch now. AS is less problematic now then ever. I think it was vitamin A and D toxicity.
2:41 PMEmma T
klebsiella is found in people with AK.
2:41 PMzendogbreath
i wish i gained weight coming from keto.
2:44 PMTao Lin
I haven’t read about fiber and AS.
2:44 PMButtercup
@zen you can have my fat 
2:44 PMTao Lin
A lot of people recommend low starch for it.
2:45 PMzendogbreath
@Oscar F getting it out faster than it comes in is the program. charcoal can help there. best to get on LYL and read through the lesson. make slow changes. it will be easier than you think.
2:45 PMzendogbreath
if only it were that easy @Buttercup
2:45 PMMatej
Grant did an article on niacin but failed to mention niacinamide
2:45 PMzendogbreath
@Matej MATEJ
2:46 PMzendogbreath
check earlier in the chat Matej. we crushed that topic.
2:46 PMMatej
@zendogbreath ZENDOGBREATH
2:46 PMMatej
let’s see
2:46 PMMatej
I followed the stream didn’t look at the chat
2:46 PMzendogbreath
will’s comment on grant’s blog rocks too.
2:47 PMzendogbreath
is that legal Matej?
2:47 PMMatej
This inner circle will be the first one without me :/
2:47 PMMatej
I def will miss is
2:47 PMMatej
it
2:47 PMWill
I am a rock
2:48 PMMatej
Youtube doesn’t let me scroll that much up @zendogbreath
2:48 PMMatej
i’ll have to wait for the stream to end to look at the comments
2:48 PMzendogbreath
oh you gotta watch the livestream later.
2:49 PMzendogbreath
what kind of rock
2:49 PMTao Lin
Yes, thank you. And you’re pronouncing my name right.
2:50 PMAnna Lynn
Thank you for your insight Dr Garrett!
2:50 PMzendogbreath
see you all.
2:50 PMWill
You have an even better day
2:50 PMMatej
stoked to see the MB one
2:50 PMMatej
take care all
2:50 PMMarisa D
cant wait for the MB!!
2:52 PMJoe Baker’s Remedy Report
Links for today’s show https://health.forgivenesscapital.com…
2:52 PMzendogbreath
thank you joe baker
2:53 PMJoe Baker’s Remedy Report
@zendogbreath !!! I enjoy your participation!
2:53 PMzendogbreath
thx man. next time I read bitcoin from you I will know.
2:53 PMJoe Baker’s Remedy Report
I’m trying to not let my zayne fun side get too carried away.
2:53 PMzendogbreath
zayne?
2:54 PMzendogbreath
i gotta let you go setup IC right?
2:54 PMJoe Baker’s Remedy Report
@zendogbreath I have two telegram channels… https://t.me/remedyreport and
2:54 PMJoe Baker’s Remedy Report
Zay-nee
2:54 PMJoe Baker’s Remedy Report
Not sure how it’s spelled.
2:55 PMzendogbreath
sounds like you have enough on your plate to keep you from hyperchatting on one channel. good tactic.
2:55 PMzendogbreath
got to go. see you man.
2:55 PMJoe Baker’s Remedy Report
bye